Sunday 3 November 2013

Shalom Akiva Hamilton 3/11/13

From: g87
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 2:45 PM
Subject: TO KIVA H - personal...Further to my article re BDS AND LYNCH ET AL
Shalom Akiva Hamilton,
Regret that I have not had the time to write you properly: but the below / earlier sent items should keep you busy.
It was deemed by myself that I had to put a stop to the ‘silly talk’ by our ‘troika’ of troglodytes.
I think they will be careful in future – and maybe you can expect co – operation from them – if you were so inclined to request it.
The damage will be entirely rescinded only by your incipient success!
I do not think you could go past Tzvi Fleischer – he is a highly intelligent, good man. A straight shooter.  He may be useful – even if his boss AIJAC HEAD Mark Leibler I KNOW to be ‘troika’ – oriented.
If you care to phone me in the next few days note that I work from home and am available if you want to speak to me.
In the interim I proffer this advice: know who are your real friends and be aware of others’ childish, petty  jealousies. To listen to them yesterday in Mizrachi Shul was pathetic: I remonstrated with them all: and even though my emails to you, to the editor of AJN – and the likely article in the AJN are not known by them – MY POSITION IS KNOWN TO THEM ALL.
Note links as below to my person.
I am also known to Shurat Ha Din – do a google search of ‘Geoff Seidner Shurat Ha Din’ to find my blog refs.
Shalom
Geoff Seidner
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Geoff Seidner
13 Alston Gr
East St Kilda 3183
Tel: 03 9525 9299..... 03 9525 9290
Alternative email: geoffseidner@gmail.com
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From: g87
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 12:21 PM
Subject: THIS IS THE DOC...cut and paste herewith!!Further to my article re BDS AND LYNCH ET AL
See below...
gs
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From:
g87
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 12:15 PM
Subject: AKIVA HAMILTON AND SHURAT RE BDS
Att Danny Lamm, Phillip Chester, Ron Tatarka and whoever else  has messed up!
CC to Tzvi Fleischer
Esteemed Gentlemen,
I advise that your troika has messed up!
I of course refer your mealy – mouthed pathetic vitiation of the action that Akiva Hamilton
 and Shurat Hadin have done – which any or all of you could have done.
But did not.
Instead you have publically criticised / vitiated Hamilton’s action. Certainly giving oxygen to
 our enemies! Can I put a few more !!!!!! ?
The ABC have already taken it up!
Note that I have found the relevant link that seems to indicate that Hamilton does not need any
 help from any of you: BUT HE DOES NOT NEED THE PATHETIC SITUATION THAT WILL POSSIBLY
ENSURE THAT THE JUDGE ADJUDICATING ******* WILL INEVITABLY SEE THE ENTIRE 
JEWISH / ZIONIST BUREAUCRACY WORKING AGAINST HAMILTON! TO OUR MUTUAL DISADVANTA!GE!!
Exactly whose side are you guys on – or is it do that not think things through!?
I told you this  *******     yesterday
on Shabbat – in essentially those words. You are arguably acting inexcusably: I got the impression
 that you resent Hamilton’s action because it makers you ‘’look like country bumpkins’’ 
   ACTUALLY your inaction and poorly – judged post facto action above makes you look WORSE!!
 Much worse.
Phillip Chester and Danny Lamm reluctantly agreed ******with me! As indeed it is not arguable!
Now you should apologize to Hamilton and somehow undo the damage / credibly to your reputations
 – of course you will not – you cannot – you will find / seek no ways of doing so.
Instead you may try to lacerate me – but I would recommend you do not. I doubt that you should
even try to diminish me.
Note that there is NOTHING FOR ANY OF YOU TO DISCUSS WITH ME ON THE PHONE. You should
 try to work out what to do with me as I am not dropping the matter.
Shalom
Geoff Seidner
East St Kilda

 

 

http://www.scribd.com/doc/159867894/Shurat-HaDin-s-complaint-about-BDS

 

Shurat HaDin's complaint about BDS - Scribd 

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From:
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 1:43 AM
Subject: FW: Israeli organisation sues Sydney academic over boycott support
And check out comments on https://newmatilda.com//2013/10/31/israeli-law-centre-sues-outlaw-boycotts
Don’t suggest you join the comments – they will just out swamp you with their blind bias and hatred.
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From:
Sent: Sunday, 3 November 2013 1:26 AM
To: 'g87@optus.net'
Subject: Israeli organisation sues Sydney academic over boycott support

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2013/s3880599.htm
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From: g87
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 12:07 PM
Subject: Further to my article re BDS AND LYNCH ET AL
Dear Zeddy
CC to Akiva Hamilton
I send you link to the brilliant legal BDS Doc I found on the Web.
AND THE BELOW IN CONFIDENCE: I DO NOT WANT TO LACERATE THE TROIKA –ON YOUR PAGES:
 IF YOU RUN MY ARTICLE YOU CANNOT ADD TO THE PUBLIC WAR BY MENTIONING THE BELOW!!

REGARDS
Geoff Seidner
Akiva,
Strength to your arm!!
Are you now in Australia?
Shalom
Geoff Seidner
From: g87
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 12:19 PM
Subject: My article re BDS AND LYNCH ET AL
Dear Zeddy
See article below.
Note that in the next few hours I will have posted links to The Australian re their wonderful articles over the last 2 days.
Please note links here that provides a wide – ranging range of references.
Note that Rabbi Shimon Cowen has been sent this CC. He may wish to make whatever comments he likes.
IT REMAINS CONFIDENTIAL – sent to no one else ... please publish as it is fully justified and major news.
Regards
Geoff Seidner
East St Kilda

LINKS FROM MY ‘COGNATE’ BLOG MAINLY:

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    GOOD   ON   YOU,      SHURAT   HA   DIN!!

    • I am saddened that the esteemed ECAJ  has not appreciated that their attempts to vitiate the incipient legal action by Shuarat Hadin the Israeli Law Centre against the determined ‘boycotteers’  are dreadfully ill advised.
    It perhaps says something about our way of [not] doing things that not only do Australians fail to act against acts of defacto illegality against Israel, but manage to criticise those that have the gumption and do take action that is strictly speaking our domain.
    It is my understanding that holding ‘them’ to account is best achieved by threats and  manifestation of action through the courts: there has to be an understanding who one is doing business with.
    Well - may the Executive Director Peter Wertheim ‘’believe that the most appropriate and effective way....through public discourse’’
    Where is the evidence that anything anyone has said in civilized discourse has had any effect?
    Au contraire – the University of Sydney have a Sturt Rees who is against signing the London Declaration against anti semitism! Wertheim’s waffle in his public pronouncement 
    seeking justification for his BDS stance in  nation states signing the document is strained. Aah – they  the source of the infamous Sydney Peace Prize.... with infamous list of anti – Israel winners.
    And the Vice Chancellor has plainly never had any intention of doing anything about Rees or the chief boycoteer Lynch. He, Professor of the Peace and Conflict Studies Centre at University of Sydney. I did not realize that their much – parodied department was still extant.
    Furthermore the idea to take viable legal action against those who would bedevil Israel is necessary.
    So the ECAJ merely wants to continue  asking them nicely to  cease and desist?
    Surely legal action compares favourably with ECAJ fatuous attempts at ‘’exposure... its deceptive and sometimes racist rhetoric, methods...’’
    Where has it got you, Peter W? In my opinion there are two irrefutable ideas in this realm:  only  declaration of war or threat of legal action has ever been heeded by those who care not for civil discourse.
    Who is your hero – Churchill  or Chamberlain? The analogy is appropriate. And if you want examples of viable real – world action via the courts compared with
    waffled, plaintive bleating – tell me where have you seen examples of success with ‘’through public discourse.’’ ?
    Look at Rees’ comment about the London anti semitism document : ‘’childish, thoughtless but easily populist.’’
    How misguided is the modus vivendi that ‘’....but we are opposed to litigation if it is pursued merely as a political tactic.”
    Excuse me? This is ethereal nonsense to invert reality by criticising via the ‘political’ moniker.
    Pray explain  to readers exactly what you say here: exactly how would you describe your post: political, non? Do you resile from making political statements in
    favour of protecting Israel against the BDS? Exactly what do you do during the day?
    I suggest you get real as they say in the non – classicist world.
    But now we come to the ultimate: Start Rees and Lynch have tried the astonishing and got away with it to date: they effectively refused access to the
    Sir Zelman Cowen Scholarship to a Jew who was plainly helping the Palestinians!
    And of course Sir Zelman Cowen was the highly respected Jewish Governor – General!
    The Scholarship was / is being run by a Jewess Sue Freedman-Levy who has obviously not spoken up about this.
    Could someone help me understand how the Peace and Conflated studies Centre through Lynch has the authority to control the Sir Zelman Cowen Scholarship?
    I do not want to call this chutzpah – because this minimizes it somehow.
    If only for this I wish Shurat Hadin well.
    And Maybe someone at the ECAJ will admit that theirs was not a good idea!

    Geoff Seidner
    13 Alston Grove East St Kilda 3183
    03 9525 9299
    03 9 525 9290





    On 15/5 Professor S Rees of Sydney University thought the signing by more than 40 Parliamentarians of The London Declaration against anti semitism was ‘’childish, thoughtless but easily populist.’’
    Throughout it all we have the Vice Chancellor  Spence seemingly vitiating the boycott – yet allowing it to be promoted at his University!

        The Executive Council of Australian Jewry has issued a statement detailing their reasons as to why they are not aligned with Israeli Human Rights group Shurat HaDin’s move to litigate against a NSW professor who advocates BDS against Israeli academics.
    Peter Wertheim
    Peter Wertheim
    In a prepared statement, executive director of The Executive Council of Australian Jewry, Peter Wertheim states: “The campaign to boycott academic and other contacts with Israel is repugnant to all who sincerely seek a just and lasting resolution of the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians,” said Peter Wertheim, the Executive Director of the Executive Council of Australian Jewry (ECAJ). “The path to a just peace is through mutual engagement, not vilification. Contacts between Israeli and Palestinian academics should be encouraged and facilitated by their Australian and other colleagues, not stigmatised.”
    The ECAJ has long been a vocal critic of the anti-Israel boycott campaign. “The boycott campaign is a calculated attempt to demonise, isolate and ultimately dismantle Israel through the distortion of international law and human rights. The hate-filled protests outside Max Brenner chocolate shops and the ill-considered scheme of Marrickville Council to boycott Israeli products at a cost of millions of dollars to its rate-payers, which was subsequently abandoned, have rightly been condemned and derided by most Australians. All major parties including the Greens, except for a handful of their MP’s, disavow the anti-Israel boycott campaign” Wertheim said.
    “The ECAJ believes that the most appropriate and effective way to combat the boycott campaign is to expose its deceptive and sometimes racist rhetoric, methods and aims public scrutiny. In our view, attempts to suppress the campaign through litigation are inappropriate and likely to be counter-productive. It is for this reason that the ECAJ has had no involvement in the action brought by Shurat HaDin and will continue to fight the boycott campaign through public discourse. If any individuals believe they have been adversely affected by racially discriminatory policies and practices of the Centre for Peace and Conflict Studies they are entitled to have their day in court, but we are opposed to litigation if it is pursued merely as a political tactic.”
    Asked whether he believes that all criticisms of Israel are antisemitic, Wertheim answered “No. Israel is a vibrant pluralist democracy and its citizens – Jews, Bedouin, Druze and other Israeli Arabs – are often its most incisive critics. But it is also false to suggest that no criticisms of Israel are antisemitic. There is clearly an overlap, as has been acknowledged by the European Agency for Fundamental Rights, the United Kingdom All-Party Parliamentary Inquiry into Antisemitism, the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe and the members of parliament from many countries, including Australia, who have signed the London Declaration on Combating Antisemitism and the Ottawa Protocol on Combating Antisemitism.”
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